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	<title>Comments on: How Should the Independent Insurance Handle the Medicare Prescription Drug Needs of their Original Medicare or MA-Only PFFS Clients?</title>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was thinking of referring out pdp prospects or running a Medicare.gov PDP comparison for prospects on a laptop while in home as a free service ( no materials will be left with client ) because if i make an appointment with a med supp prospect and make it clear i will not be selling them a MA or PDP then that  appointment doesn&#039;t come under MIPPA marketing rules as far as scope letter, cross selling etc. right ?

I really don&#039;t want to sell stand alone PDP anymore because the risk ,restrictions and 20.00 commission is not worth it. I really wish Medicare would just standardize stand alone PDP plans and make it available only through Medicare.That would at least clean up some of the clutter since the line between original Medicare and the private Medicare option wouldn&#039;t be as blurred .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking of referring out pdp prospects or running a Medicare.gov PDP comparison for prospects on a laptop while in home as a free service ( no materials will be left with client ) because if i make an appointment with a med supp prospect and make it clear i will not be selling them a MA or PDP then that  appointment doesn&#8217;t come under MIPPA marketing rules as far as scope letter, cross selling etc. right ?</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t want to sell stand alone PDP anymore because the risk ,restrictions and 20.00 commission is not worth it. I really wish Medicare would just standardize stand alone PDP plans and make it available only through Medicare.That would at least clean up some of the clutter since the line between original Medicare and the private Medicare option wouldn&#8217;t be as blurred .</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bronstein</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Bronstein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have spent a great deal of time finding my clients the best plan based upon their medication needs.  I use the plan finder on Medicare.gov.

However, either the plan finder is inaccurate (can&#039;t be, it&#039;s a government site) or the plans change their formularies as fast as I change my socks.  

Either way, my clients have difficulty getting their medication and I look like an idiot.

In addition, that $25 commission might put me over the top and have to pay higher Obama taxes.

Rick]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent a great deal of time finding my clients the best plan based upon their medication needs.  I use the plan finder on Medicare.gov.</p>
<p>However, either the plan finder is inaccurate (can&#8217;t be, it&#8217;s a government site) or the plans change their formularies as fast as I change my socks.  </p>
<p>Either way, my clients have difficulty getting their medication and I look like an idiot.</p>
<p>In addition, that $25 commission might put me over the top and have to pay higher Obama taxes.</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig,

Personally I don&#039;t worry about the PDP too much. My experiences, and please correct me if I am wrong, is other than the $295 deductible that applies to some plans, there is not much of a difference in plans. They all have the &quot;donut hole&quot; when you get to $2,700 anyhow and almost all plans cover generics through the &quot;donut hole&quot;.  Its impossible when you are meeting with 15 to 20 prospects weekly to sort out everyone&#039;s medications and compare each companies formulary. If a prior authorization is required that can usually be obtained by the patients physician with a little effort from the insured and the providers office. The only real copay difference is the different tiers and related copay for each tier, i.e., Highmark may have lipitor at tier 2 and Coventry may have lipitor at tier 3.

In Pennsylvania, if you are 65 or older I encourage all agents to try and get their clients qualified for PACE or PACE net if possible.  PACE only considers income when determining eligibility and not assets so even well off people qualify if their combined income is under $31,200 for a married couple and Governor Rendell is considering upping that threshold to $40K in annual income. Also, see if your client is eligible for low income subsidy through the social security administration and that will help them also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t worry about the PDP too much. My experiences, and please correct me if I am wrong, is other than the $295 deductible that applies to some plans, there is not much of a difference in plans. They all have the &#8220;donut hole&#8221; when you get to $2,700 anyhow and almost all plans cover generics through the &#8220;donut hole&#8221;.  Its impossible when you are meeting with 15 to 20 prospects weekly to sort out everyone&#8217;s medications and compare each companies formulary. If a prior authorization is required that can usually be obtained by the patients physician with a little effort from the insured and the providers office. The only real copay difference is the different tiers and related copay for each tier, i.e., Highmark may have lipitor at tier 2 and Coventry may have lipitor at tier 3.</p>
<p>In Pennsylvania, if you are 65 or older I encourage all agents to try and get their clients qualified for PACE or PACE net if possible.  PACE only considers income when determining eligibility and not assets so even well off people qualify if their combined income is under $31,200 for a married couple and Governor Rendell is considering upping that threshold to $40K in annual income. Also, see if your client is eligible for low income subsidy through the social security administration and that will help them also.</p>
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